Revelation Chapter 22 Discussion



 
  • Bill on Revelation 22:12 - 1 year ago
    when the LORD JESUS comes it matters not who you are or what you are because HE will know and HE will say welcome bill come with ME or HE will say bill I know you not.I am believing that HE will say bill welcome come with Me because you believed in ME and know who I AM.
  • GIGI - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Jal,

    Along with what Jesse said, those who take the mark of the beast will be expected or forced to worship the beast. Therefore, they will be idolators and non-believers in Jesus Christ. These will be what is used to condemn them to the lake of fire forever.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Jal,

    Those who take the mark will have no hope of salvation. It will be too late to be saved once a person takes the mark. That is their punishment.

    But your question, why does God punish those who receive the mark of the beast?

    First, we have to understand that God is a righteous God and a righteous judge. God makes no mistakes in His judgements.

    Those who take the mark will be punished for their disobedience to God. God is going to send the gospel message out, and that message will reach every single person, and they will be warned not to take the mark.

    So those who refuse the gospel message, those who refuse the warning not to take the mark, God will punish. They will lose the opportunity to be saved for disobeying God.
  • Jal on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Question why god punish those who received the Mark of beast
  • Willie Ja on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    I really enjoy searching the Holy Scriptures, It makes me feel wonderful.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Interesting. Thanks for the study.

    I also found it's used with the HOLY Spirit in Old Testament in Isaiah 63:10, Holy: translation as ( qodesh )

    with searching site word search & then referenced Strongs Exhaustive Concordance on site.

    & Isaiah 11:12 as And the Spirit, of the LORD (Yhovah) transliteration (Yhvh)

    Spirit (ruwach) used 3 times in same verse, prophetic of Jesus CHRIST, awesome
  • Johnpage59 - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Thank you for your kind reply, regards John.
  • James Paige on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    SO, THE QUESTION IS.What is it that those, who believe in the natural immortality of the soul, do not understand?

    AN ANSWER.They do not understand, how God created man, a living soul, it they did there would be no problem understanding what returned to God, at death.

    A common view of the meaning of the spirit that goes back to God, says that it refers to the breath of life. That would agree with King Solomon's statement in Ecclesiastes 3:21 where he said, "the breath of man ascends upward" at death. It is important to know that the Hebrew word that is translated as "breath" in Ecclesiastes 3:21 is the same Hebrew word that is translated as "spirit" in Ecclesiastes 12:7. So, this Hebrew word ruach can be translated as "breath" or "spirit."

    It is important to know that Genesis 2:7 translates ruach as "breath." So it says, "breath of life."

    The word "ruach" can be translated as "breath" or "spirit." It is translated in the "Old testament," (90) times as "wind" and (28) times "breath"
  • T Levis - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 21:24, Psalms 85,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Johnpage59 on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    If kings were killed in the last 7 years, why do we read that there are Kings in Heaven? Thank you, regards John.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Welcome James, glad you found us here.

    Chris has given you a good explanation to you two queries.

    I just want to add that I have been pretty much a homebody since covid began in 2020 since I have 5 of the risk factors for having a covid infection become a very serious illness for me. But, with being home, I have been blessed to also keep up with the news and world happenings and along the way I came to this site also, as I was seeking to read the KJV for the first time. This site has truly blessed me in so many ways. I hope you find yourself "at home" here. I will pray for your health.

    Dear Heavenly Father, today we come to You in the name of Jesus and ask that You will bring improved health to James. We ask that You supply to James the health care that will most benefit him. We are thankful that James is seeking You more during this time. Bless James in his seeking after You and Your truth with wisdom and understanding. Amen.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Hi Nsituma,

    I don't think that this site is supportive of giving out e-mails addresses. I think that you can just post to me and I will repond on this site. I come here daily. At this time I do not wish to give out my e-mail address.
  • Nsituma on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    HI GIGI please may I get your EMAIL so we can talk well on that space
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    John 11:35.
  • Nsituma on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    which verse says Jesus whept
  • Duncan - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    If you add or removed anything from his word which is the bible, you will not enter into eternal life and you will be taken out of the book of life which has the names of all those who have been given salvation at the cross by the grace of God.

    Amen
  • John Hamilton on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    What do you have to say about Ch. 22 verse 19 of revelations about being removed from the lamb's book of life to explain this verse
  • Gladys on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Thank you, brother, for bringing the Word of God to Turtle Island
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Hello Mark, congratulations on such a remarkable name!

    Knowing the gospel truths, I am convinced would take more than a life time! If however these truths are lived in, we will say in the end, it is nothing less than the love of Gods word towards man!

    Thank you for your earnest honor in the knowledge of these things that can only come from heaven!

    In Christ, Fred
  • Levi - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Good to know you Mark, Praise God !
  • MARK JOSEPH MCDONALD on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    I mark joseph mcdonald have taken many years too read this book word by word sentence by sentence paragraph by paragraph and have not added to the words or taken away from the words or prohpecies of this book from beginning too the end. i started with the very opening statments and have done so with all my heart with all my spirit that father god our great creator has given my soul with his word too do. i believe with all my heart mind body soul love and life and strength that jesus christ is truly the son of god he came from father god of heaven too teach us all and too show us all a better way too live and too love one another through his father and from the word of life through our lord jesus christ forever and forever amen.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Concluding thoughts continued in Rev. 22

    Therefore; many may be genuinely shocked when the Lord says that He never knew them and they ask for entrance into heaven. ( Matt. 7:21). Sadly; many never will know the depths of their own depravity until they enter hell; surely then they will know how helpless they are; although there will be no love and appreciation for a Holy God. The biggest message I can see here is that we must in this life be saved; as well as love God. Mankind in his natural state can fear God but cannot love Him; nor Christ who the Father sent to die in our place. All believers are called to share in the sufferings of Christ; and to bear their own cross daily. ( Romans 8:17; Matt. 16:24). Only believers can understand being part of the Body of Christ and fellowship of the saints. ( 1 John 1:3 and many other passages). We must die to ourselves daily ( Galatians 2:20). This involves selfless acts; but also has to have a heart change ( Ezekiel 36:26). To be drawn to the light is the state of those who He has called to be His children and chosen ( John 3:21).

    As my last commentary stated; we are not to worry about whether we are elected by God; at least as some curiousity or intellectual concept. Our responsibility is ultimately ours to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5). His Spirit communes with our spirit to show us if we are of God ( Romans 8:16).

    Verses 18 through 19 reminds us of the seriousness of God's Word. No other religions or other writings that change the Word of God or create another method of salvation; another Christ etc. are to be tolerated (See Galatians 1:8). Such a reverent fear of God's Word today is sorely lacking. Many probably don't believe these things are really going to be this bad; sadly a former Pastor of mine used to have these thoughts when reading the Book of Isaiah. If the rich man in hell is any example; no one there will be grateful for our lackluster witness here now.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 22 concluding thoughts

    Once more in verses 11 and 15 we see how the state of a person remains for all eternity; either in Christ and entirely dead to the old self and in heaven; or else remaining in a sinful state no doubt punished for the specific severity depending on what types of sins are being judged.

    There is no room for lingering on any aspects of this life; as heaven will be paved with gold. There is truly joy to service which those not in Christ cannot comprehend. It will no doubt be fellowship of the saints that moves beyond male/female and all barriers that the cares of this life tend to separate us from now.

    The focus of verse 18 and 19 are what I would like to focus this study on. The first verse warns of anyone adding to the prophecy that God will add the plagues in this book. Since that involves anything in the seal; trumpet or vial judgments it may allow for some hope of repentance. The next verse; however indicates a name being removed from the book of life for those who take something out of it. This is the only verse in the Bible warning of direct response of taking someone out of the book of life. ( Exodus 32:33). The earlier verse in Revelation 3:5 shows someone NOT taken out of the book.

    Personally; I would tend to think this would refer to the book of all the living on earth who; when lost are not able to retain it and thus enter the book of life in the first place. Therefore they die the second death. This would mean; of course that potentially everyone can come to Christ and it sort of decimates the idea of the doctrine of election. Frankly I had never paid much attention to this verse before. Furthermore the specific actions of meddling with God's Word is a specific way such an individual reveals their turning from whatever their conscience dictates to a delusion (see Romans 1; Psalm 19). However you slice it no one who messes with God's Word should be surprised by His judgments.
  • Luke - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Being disrespectful IS walking in Gods love? Whatever lol !
  • Luke - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Thank you! "With all due respect" tops the list of rude phrases

    Are you really showing respect when you say "With all due respect?" That phrase topped the list of rude phrases and words. Why it is disrespectful? What invariable follows that phrase is a negative attack.

    It is rare when a positive statement is made following "With all due respect." As a result, when this phrase is used, the other party becomes immediately defensive and irritated.

    A vicious attack-defense spiral has been initiated that is difficult to break though. It you want to disagree, first acknowledge what the other party has said, make sure you have clarification and then state why you disagree. Using "With all due respect" draws the conversation away from a goal of reaching agreement because the emotions get in the way of problem solving.

    Thank you Henry, and Jessie!
  • Henry - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Luke. With all due respect before Revelation begins which is the judgement

    Of Jesus Christ or wrath against all unbelief of which the Church Epistles state

    That we who are born again are saved from because we are God's Sons and Daughters in Christ and our sins are paid for so Christ will come for His Church

    First. Also In defence of the truth for someone to state that another brother is

    Being Influenced by Satan or controlled mentally is extremely out of walking in God's Love and not judging correctly spiritually. Our first priority is to walk in

    Agapeo renewed mind love also according to Corinthians 13:5 The love of God

    Thinketh no evil just because someone doesn't agree with what you see biblically

    Doesn't make them spiritually screwed up, we who believe fight for each other

    Not against.
  • Luke - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    It's your ship, you're the captain, sail on brother, you say you did read my breakdown, and you still poked the bear? Why is it you can express your opinion, but take issue when I express mine, knowing that I disagree, you didn't want to have a discussion then, but you want to poke now?

    That Is my opinion, The Rapture doctrine is a soul hunt designed to steal souls, it doesn't matter if you got Christ in you now, when a person worships the devil he dies a spiritual death, he is no longer a Christian, he's a devil worshiper,,, you aint the first person I've had the discussion with, and you wont be the last,,,
  • Luke - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Jessie

    You're the one taking issue, I disagreed, then gave my opinion on the rapture,,,simmer down.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Luke,

    You say that I "have been conditioned/programmed into worshiping Satan when he arrives on the scene?" That would be impossible since I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I am under the influence and persuasion of God's Spirit. Satan no longer has control over me. Please let me respectfully say that I am perfectly fine with you disagreeing with me. Really, I am. If you do not believe in a rapture, I have no issue with you. I do believe in the rapture so why would you have an issue with me for believing in the rapture? I guess we will just have to remain in disagreement. I respect your belief, and you should respect mine. And by the way, I did read your "breakdown" of 1 Thessalonians 4:14. All I can say in response to your breakdown is that I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong!
  • Luke - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 1 year ago
    Jessie

    I Emphatically disagree with you,,, had you read my "For what it's worth" post, or replied to it, you could have learned something.

    So to be clear, "with all due respect" The Rapture is a soul hunt, you are helping to program people into believing Christ comes first when He does NOT,,, you have been conditioned/programmed into worshiping Satan when he arrives on the scene FIRST with this Rapture doctrine, Had you read my breakdown of 1 Thessalonians 4:17. You guy's are doing exactly what Paul said NOT to do in His 2nd letter to the Thessalonians, Sir


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