Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
This verse encapsulates what is going on in the second and third seals in what is the FOURTH seal. It adds the detail "beasts of the earth" which has been interpreted in two ways; animals or possibly plagues causes by animals. In any event the end result is one fourth of the earth dying. The question here is whether that means one quarter of the entire earth as a WHOLE; or a judgment confined to a quarter of the earth. If it is the latter it could mean that destruction was in that region and perhaps leaves room for SOME surviving it. That principle could of course occur in the world at large; but again not nit picking too much it will bring for most under their influence a fate of death by one or more of these means and hence be unprecedented in casualties.
There are some who have stated that this primarily is a racial type of conflict or focusing on one on one combat. We don't see territories mentioned or armies; weapons; etc. If there is that type of conflict; no doubt it would simply aid the Antichrist Beast to consolidate his efforts for worldwide power and domination. Psalm 83 is one possibility of what will be in the early Tribulation when Israel's IMMEDIATE neighbors are obliterated. Zepheniah 2:4 says For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Logically speaking; Antichrist will have to appear to protect Israel for the first half of the Tribulation; or the temple sacrifices; preaching of the two prophets; etc will not be able to occur. We also see his primary goal is to have worship from the whole earth and also economic control. For a time Revelation 13 shows worldwide control.
We have similar understanding on some things, Jesus said Take heed that no man deceive you, to be deceived is to be taken out of the way. He also said broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: We as humans tend to go with the majority thinking so many believe one thing it must be the right way, Satan's best deception.
It has been taught for so long now, that many are looking for something that is not the truth and will be unable to stand when the hour of temptation comes. There is not a first and second half of tribulation there are 3.5 years given to the beast as we see in Revelation 13. Many are looking to be taken to heaven before the beast arises out of the bottomless pit.
I have not seen anywhere in Scripture where we are taken or we go to heaven, if someone can show me, I would be grateful.
I thought you were saying there is no 3 and a half year tribulation period. I re-read the text and couldn't do nothing but laugh at myself.
I think I combined your text with another and didn't read through neither.
Sorry for that!
More on the wide gate and "broad way" mentioned in Matthew 7:13-14.
I don't think you will find least resistance in the wide gate because because it is a "broad way"!
This group doesn't necessarily agree with one another! The only thing they have in common is they reject Christ and some don't even know it.
One's narrow view can be found in the wide gate.
I believe that is what makes the wide gate a broad way. People are willing to take any other way but the Lord's way.
That's why those on Christ narrow path is persecuted by the world and half of them goes under the banner of Christianity so I would be careful not to be prejudice against a view point because it is taught by what is believed to be the majority or minority view.
We study scripture to learn and grow. Not to differentiate or to disprove aview point.
It can become an obsession and lead you down the wrong path.
When Jesus said "broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat" I believe that is a salvation issue, "Not eschatology"
You said yourself that we shouldn't tie the two together!
We should hold to and run with scripture, "Not majority or minority as you stated but if the majority or minority is correct on a matter there is nothing we can do against the truth whether it is a salvation issue, eschatology, or any other issue.
Concerning the wide gate. Most and confess we are saved by faith in the working of God by way of the cross but out of that group many will be deceived. "It's just a confession. Not faith.
In the context of that portion of scripture man puts his trust in the work in his own hands.
I agree with you when you say that your interpretation on eschatology is different from most,
However, I don't agree that the view that Richard, myself and others has shared on this topic is a majority view point.
Today the Amillenial view point "where one spiritualize much of the text is widely accepted and your views is closer to theirs than the narrow viewpoint the we premillennials hold to.
So brother you are in that wide gate that has been passed down since st Augustine.
I believe this viewpoint has a faulty hermeneutics.
I agree 100 percent with Richard on this but I wouldn't be willing to debate it again at this time.
However I believe you have been shown the proof of what you are asking multiple times by several people on this site.
Thanks, brother, I did not intend to combine salvation issue and eschatology. I was just referring to it being an innate human nature to follow a crowd and taking the path of least resistance. I did not mean to base any truth on the majority or minority. I agree we can apply Matthew 7:13 with salvation but we can also apply it to what is being taught as in verse 15 is a warning of false prophets. This includes false teaching that is attractive and the larger the crowd the easier it is to deceive people.
I agree we should put Scripture above all that is taught out there for in them is the only truth, but many people do not, they just go with what they hear from a preacher, TV, YouTube, etc. Some never open a Bible and study and pray, asking God for the truth and the larger the follower's impact what they believe is the truth.
We can be deceived if we do not try the spirits, 1 John 4:1 that only comes from prayer and study being guided by the Holy Spirit. Hope this makes sense, we have discussed this before and this is not to debate we both know each other's understanding and I am not asking you but honestly, I have not found or have been shown one verse that out-and-out says we go or are taken to heaven that some teach.
I must disagree, I am not Amillennialism, I do not spiritualize Scripture, I believe in a literal 1000-year reign of Jesus with His chosen and faithful at His second coming, Revelation 5:10Revelation 20:4-6. Also, I do not believe the Church has replaced Israel. We are probably closer in our understanding of the end times than you think.
Hope you had a good vacation I guess you are on the road again.
The message below is for your meditation, as a clue, to decipher an enigma / conundrum.
As you know, Revelation 13 describes two terrible different Beasts:
Beast of sea(verse 1),
Beast of the earth(verse 11)
Which of the two Beasts are you referring to?
According to the Revelation, sea means waters, waters mean peoples, and nations, and multitues of all tongues- Revelation 17:15-i.e. Gentile nations, so the Beast of sea is a Gentile Beast.
The Beast of earth has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a DRAGON (a false lamb), by allegory, earth here is Israel, the clay( Isaiah 64:8) a dry land, like an isle in the sea, a portion of earth surrounded by waters (gentile peoples) on all sides.
According to the Daniel 9:27, he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Revelation 13:2 says the DRAGON shall give to the GENTILE Beast of sea his Power, and his Seat(his throne in Jerusalem), and great Authority. And in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations( Daniel 12:11) he shall make it desolate until the consummation.
Sorry for the delay, I did not reply concerning the two beasts in Revelation 13 my reply was about the last week of Daniel 9:27 being put at the end times, my understanding is different. As far as the sea means waters and could be the Gentile nations you may be correct, we know it won't be Israel.
If we look at Revelation 11:7 and Revelation 17:8 this beast ascendeth out of the bottomless pit, so the word sea in Revelation 13 may mean the abyss, just a thought.
Hey Oseas, one issue with Dan 9:27 is that it's all about the Messiah. The seventy weeks are all about Jesus, no antichrist. Jesus did cause the oblation to cease 3 and a half years into his ministry " annoint the most holy", which was his baptism. There is no prophetic "covenant" with Israel for seven years made by the antichrist, this is an erroneous teaching.
I could not see in your reply what is your interpretation on Dan.9:27, you just limited yourself to informing other interpretations are erroneous, your answer did not bring your interpretation.I did not understand what you meant: 'one issue with Dan 9:27 is that it's all about the Messiah'.
But what does Daniel 9:27 reveal?
27 - And HE shall confirm the covenant with many for one week(of years):and in the MIDST of the week(after 42 months)HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,and for the overspreading of abominations HE shall make it desolate, even until the consummation,and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Just curious.Who is HE in your understanding? (Remember:In Matthew 24:15 our Lord JESUS LITERALLY referred to this desolation spoken of by Daniel as a signal of His coming imediately after the period of sorrows- Matthew 24:3-8).
Then,according to the above,'HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease',but verse 26 says:And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (crucified),but NOT for Himself: and the people (WHAT PEOPLE?)of the PRINCE (WHAT PRINCE?)that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary(for me Ezekiel 21:25 reveals who is this profane Prince); and the end thereof shall be with a flood,and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
You said 'the Ministry of JESUS' was 3,5 years, but the current and universal record of the period of JESUS's Ministry is only 3 years, not 3,5 years. What is your source? Just curious,it's unknown to me.
Sorry, our posts are read by many brothers and sisters, so my concern is to FIND the true interpretation of Scriptures in the current perilous times, and also overspreading of apostasies, beyond manifestation of the son of perdition very soon( John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:1-4 and Revelation 13:11).
May our Lord GOD bless us,and give us His pretection
My understanding is Jesus was baptized and anointed in the fall of the year__, he was 40 days and nights in the wilderness. Jesus then chose His 12 disciples. shortly after the wedding where Jesus turned the water to wine, He went to Passover John 2:23, this would be 6 months after He was anointed by the Holy Ghost.
There are 3 more Passovers and Jesus was crucified on the last one, John 5:1, 1.5 years John 6:4 2.5 years, and John 13:1 the Passover He was crucified 3.5 years from when He was anointed as the Messiah.
My understanding of Matthew 24 was also for the disciples for the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem not just for us today, if we compare Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14 have when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet. But in Luke 21:20, He writes when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
The abomination of desolation is something done by someone as King Antiochus IV Epiphanes did in 168 BC. It happened before the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. My understanding is parts of Jesus's Olivet discourse were for them and parts are for us.
What is in Daniel 9:27 Jesus caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease when He died and the vail of the Temple rent from top to bottom. As Jesus told the woman at the well the hour has come ye shall not worship the Father in the mountain or Jerusalem, John 4:21
The wording in Daniel 9:27 is for the overspreading of abominations points to the abominations the leaders of Jerusalem will have done, Matthew 23:32-38 Jesus told them "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate" The he, is Jesus who will make it desolate and, in their generation, it was made desolate by the people/Roman army, of the prince/Titus same as God used Babylon in 586 BC.
I hope this makes sense so that you can study for your understanding even if you disagree, if you have questions let me know.
The main happenings before the beginning of the last week- Daniel 9:27.What will happen from now on.The last week is not too far to start.Here are the happenings that will preceed the last week as was prophesied by Daniel:
- Death of the current Pope and election of the next and last Pope,ruler and guide of the religious MONSTER of 7 heads,and 10 horns,upon his HORNS ten crowns,and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy-Vicarius Filli Dei?
-The Beast of the earth with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel;(the clay- Isaiah 64:8-the dry land);
-Election of a new Pope-his pseudo-name or nickname may be Paulus VII??(Re.17:10);
-Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB will manifest himself as God in Israel;in fact a false messiah,an esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist false messiah;Then there will be two powerful and satanic Beasts in the Earth;
-The esoteric and kabblistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth will make great signs and wonders of lie,even makes fire come down to the earth before men;Rev.13:13-15
-The ELECTED LAST Pope(Paulus VII??)will meet the Beast like lamb;
-Both will develop an union between the Roman Catholic Church and Judaism,iron with clay- Daniel 2:41-43-but they shall not cleave one to another,even as iron is not mixed with clay;
-A religious and universal satanic Empire will be build by both religious leaders;Rev.11:1-2;
-The esoteric and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast of the earth-the false messiah of the Jews-AN IMPOSTOR,will make a deal with the Beast of sea-the Papacy-,the Beast of earth, the false messaiah, will give to the Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne,and great Authority.Then the Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both satanic Beasts;
All events or happenings listed above,some will happen before starting the last week- Daniel 9:27-,for example,death of Pope Francis,others during the week as soon it starts, and others in the middle of the week and until the end or until the consumation.
Jesus went out from the Temple:His disciples showed Him the buildings of the Temple.JESUS said:See ye not all these things?verily I say unto you,There shall not be left here ONE stone upon another, what He prophesied fulfilled LITERALLY in 70AD,the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy.Temple was destroyed in 70AD,Israel was banned from their land,and were scattered around the world for 1878 years,from 70AD-1948AD,100K died under the army of Romans's attack.Israel suffered severe and great punishments for 1878 years in LITERAL fulfillment of Deuteronomy 28:15-68.Take a look.The WORD IS GOD,self-executing,understand?
Then JESUS went to the Mount of Olives,there the disciples privately asked two important things to Him,saying:
1 - What shall be the sign of thy coming?
2 - and of the END of the world?(the current Devil's world)
JESUS LISTED A TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD-BEGINNING OF SORROWS, AND SAID HOW WOULD BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE TIME
The testimomy of JESUS is the Spirit of PROPHECY.He listed several events linked to His Coming,and to the END of THIS current Devil's world.
Matthew 24:4-8-Jesus said:
v.4-Take heed that no man deceive you;(this the first concern of JESUS).It seems many have not kept the warning of JESUS and are being deceived by false and devilish theories spread in the world mainly by Internet.
v.5-For many shall come in my name,saying,I am Christ;and shall deceive many;
(Soon will manifest the Beast of the earth who has two horns like a lamb,actually a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR. John 5:43, 2Thessalonians 2:3-4, Revelation 13:11).
v.6-And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS;seefor ALL THESE THINGS must come to pass,but the END is not yet.
v.7-For NATION shall rise against NATION,and kingdom against kingdom:
there shall be famines;
pestilences;
earthquakes in divers places.
8All these are the beginning of SORROWS.(Pre-tribulational)
Do you recall Jesus said, "behold, your house is left desolate"? Math 23:38, the he is the messiah. The entire 70 weeks concerned the coming of Jesus, true the prince that shall come destroyed the city, 70 A.D. The "subject" throughout the explanation of the 70 weeks was Jesus. The 70 weeks culminated with the stoning of Stephen, the first martyr, would have been 3 and a half years after the crucifixion.
Messiah doesn't destroy. Here's what the prophecy says of Daniel's week 70th;
1-it is about the works of redemption through JESUS the Messiah;
2-to RESTORE and BUILD the Temple of Jerusalem, as was commanded by GOD to the King Cyrus(Esra 1:2-3 and 6:3),
3-This EVENT would last until the Messiah be cut off-(Crucified),as is written in Dan.9:24-25,as follow:
Verse 24-Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people(Israel)and upon thy holy city,
-to finish the transgression,
-and to make an end of sins,
-to make reconciliation for iniquity,
-to bring in everlasting righteousness,
-to seal up the VISION and PROPHECY,
and to anoint the most Holy.
V.25-Know therefore and understand,that
- from the going forth of the commandment TO RESTORE,
- and TO BUILD Jerusalem until the Messiah the Prince,
- shall be seven weeks(49 years),
- and threescore and two weeks(more 434 years):
- the street shall be BUILT AGAIN,and the wall, even in troublous times.
JESUS was born after week 69, i.e.after a period of 483 years.His birth was something around 7 to 3BC,as this is known).
- Beginning of Jesus' public Ministry was around 27 AD, at the age of thirty( Luke 3:23).
- After three years was cut off in LITERAL fulfilment of Dan.9:26-And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off(crucified),but not for Himself.
That said,the last week,week 70th,stayed I would say,at stand by,and it until this current time.
Actually,these last 7 years are within the last decade of the existence of this current world of Devil,and in this last 10 years period fulfills LITERALY Matthew 24:3-8-period of sorrows,and imediately after,the abomination of desolation- Matthew 24:15-28. GET READY
In the other hand,O please,brother, according to the Chronology of the New Testament,when Stephen was killed it had not been passed two years of the crucifixion,so much less than three years and half as you said erroneously. Stephen has nothing to do with the week 70th Daniel's prophecy.
This verse encapsulates what is going on in the second and third seals in what is the FOURTH seal. It adds the detail "beasts of the earth" which has been interpreted in two ways; animals or possibly plagues causes by animals. In any event the end result is one fourth of the earth dying. The question here is whether that means one quarter of the entire earth as a WHOLE; or a judgment confined to a quarter of the earth. If it is the latter it could mean that destruction was in that region and perhaps leaves room for SOME surviving it. That principle could of course occur in the world at large; but again not nit picking too much it will bring for most under their influence a fate of death by one or more of these means and hence be unprecedented in casualties.
There are some who have stated that this primarily is a racial type of conflict or focusing on one on one combat. We don't see territories mentioned or armies; weapons; etc. If there is that type of conflict; no doubt it would simply aid the Antichrist Beast to consolidate his efforts for worldwide power and domination. Psalm 83 is one possibility of what will be in the early Tribulation when Israel's IMMEDIATE neighbors are obliterated. Zepheniah 2:4 says For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Logically speaking; Antichrist will have to appear to protect Israel for the first half of the Tribulation; or the temple sacrifices; preaching of the two prophets; etc will not be able to occur. We also see his primary goal is to have worship from the whole earth and also economic control. For a time Revelation 13 shows worldwide control.
We have similar understanding on some things, Jesus said Take heed that no man deceive you, to be deceived is to be taken out of the way. He also said broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: We as humans tend to go with the majority thinking so many believe one thing it must be the right way, Satan's best deception.
It has been taught for so long now, that many are looking for something that is not the truth and will be unable to stand when the hour of temptation comes. There is not a first and second half of tribulation there are 3.5 years given to the beast as we see in Revelation 13. Many are looking to be taken to heaven before the beast arises out of the bottomless pit.
I have not seen anywhere in Scripture where we are taken or we go to heaven, if someone can show me, I would be grateful.
God bless,
RLW
Brother I certainly misread your text!
I thought you were saying there is no 3 and a half year tribulation period. I re-read the text and couldn't do nothing but laugh at myself.
I think I combined your text with another and didn't read through neither.
Sorry for that!
More on the wide gate and "broad way" mentioned in Matthew 7:13-14.
I don't think you will find least resistance in the wide gate because because it is a "broad way"!
This group doesn't necessarily agree with one another! The only thing they have in common is they reject Christ and some don't even know it.
One's narrow view can be found in the wide gate.
I believe that is what makes the wide gate a broad way. People are willing to take any other way but the Lord's way.
That's why those on Christ narrow path is persecuted by the world and half of them goes under the banner of Christianity so I would be careful not to be prejudice against a view point because it is taught by what is believed to be the majority or minority view.
We study scripture to learn and grow. Not to differentiate or to disprove aview point.
It can become an obsession and lead you down the wrong path.
God bless.
When Jesus said "broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat" I believe that is a salvation issue, "Not eschatology"
You said yourself that we shouldn't tie the two together!
We should hold to and run with scripture, "Not majority or minority as you stated but if the majority or minority is correct on a matter there is nothing we can do against the truth whether it is a salvation issue, eschatology, or any other issue.
Concerning the wide gate. Most and confess we are saved by faith in the working of God by way of the cross but out of that group many will be deceived. "It's just a confession. Not faith.
In the context of that portion of scripture man puts his trust in the work in his own hands.
I agree with you when you say that your interpretation on eschatology is different from most,
However, I don't agree that the view that Richard, myself and others has shared on this topic is a majority view point.
Today the Amillenial view point "where one spiritualize much of the text is widely accepted and your views is closer to theirs than the narrow viewpoint the we premillennials hold to.
So brother you are in that wide gate that has been passed down since st Augustine.
I believe this viewpoint has a faulty hermeneutics.
I agree 100 percent with Richard on this but I wouldn't be willing to debate it again at this time.
However I believe you have been shown the proof of what you are asking multiple times by several people on this site.
God bless.
Thanks, brother, I did not intend to combine salvation issue and eschatology. I was just referring to it being an innate human nature to follow a crowd and taking the path of least resistance. I did not mean to base any truth on the majority or minority. I agree we can apply Matthew 7:13 with salvation but we can also apply it to what is being taught as in verse 15 is a warning of false prophets. This includes false teaching that is attractive and the larger the crowd the easier it is to deceive people.
I agree we should put Scripture above all that is taught out there for in them is the only truth, but many people do not, they just go with what they hear from a preacher, TV, YouTube, etc. Some never open a Bible and study and pray, asking God for the truth and the larger the follower's impact what they believe is the truth.
We can be deceived if we do not try the spirits, 1 John 4:1 that only comes from prayer and study being guided by the Holy Spirit. Hope this makes sense, we have discussed this before and this is not to debate we both know each other's understanding and I am not asking you but honestly, I have not found or have been shown one verse that out-and-out says we go or are taken to heaven that some teach.
I must disagree, I am not Amillennialism, I do not spiritualize Scripture, I believe in a literal 1000-year reign of Jesus with His chosen and faithful at His second coming, Revelation 5:10 Revelation 20:4-6. Also, I do not believe the Church has replaced Israel. We are probably closer in our understanding of the end times than you think.
Hope you had a good vacation I guess you are on the road again.
God bless,
RLW
The message below is for your meditation, as a clue, to decipher an enigma / conundrum.
As you know, Revelation 13 describes two terrible different Beasts:
Beast of sea(verse 1),
Beast of the earth(verse 11)
Which of the two Beasts are you referring to?
According to the Revelation, sea means waters, waters mean peoples, and nations, and multitues of all tongues- Revelation 17:15-i.e. Gentile nations, so the Beast of sea is a Gentile Beast.
The Beast of earth has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a DRAGON (a false lamb), by allegory, earth here is Israel, the clay( Isaiah 64:8) a dry land, like an isle in the sea, a portion of earth surrounded by waters (gentile peoples) on all sides.
According to the Daniel 9:27, he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Revelation 13:2 says the DRAGON shall give to the GENTILE Beast of sea his Power, and his Seat(his throne in Jerusalem), and great Authority. And in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations( Daniel 12:11) he shall make it desolate until the consummation.
GOD BLESS
Sorry for the delay, I did not reply concerning the two beasts in Revelation 13 my reply was about the last week of Daniel 9:27 being put at the end times, my understanding is different. As far as the sea means waters and could be the Gentile nations you may be correct, we know it won't be Israel.
If we look at Revelation 11:7 and Revelation 17:8 this beast ascendeth out of the bottomless pit, so the word sea in Revelation 13 may mean the abyss, just a thought.
Thanks, and God bless,
RLW
Greetings in Christ JESUS
I could not see in your reply what is your interpretation on Dan.9:27, you just limited yourself to informing other interpretations are erroneous, your answer did not bring your interpretation.I did not understand what you meant: 'one issue with Dan 9:27 is that it's all about the Messiah'.
But what does Daniel 9:27 reveal?
27 - And HE shall confirm the covenant with many for one week(of years):and in the MIDST of the week(after 42 months)HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,and for the overspreading of abominations HE shall make it desolate, even until the consummation,and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Just curious.Who is HE in your understanding? (Remember:In Matthew 24:15 our Lord JESUS LITERALLY referred to this desolation spoken of by Daniel as a signal of His coming imediately after the period of sorrows- Matthew 24:3-8).
Then,according to the above,'HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease',but verse 26 says:And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (crucified),but NOT for Himself: and the people (WHAT PEOPLE?)of the PRINCE (WHAT PRINCE?)that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary(for me Ezekiel 21:25 reveals who is this profane Prince); and the end thereof shall be with a flood,and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
You said 'the Ministry of JESUS' was 3,5 years, but the current and universal record of the period of JESUS's Ministry is only 3 years, not 3,5 years. What is your source? Just curious,it's unknown to me.
Sorry, our posts are read by many brothers and sisters, so my concern is to FIND the true interpretation of Scriptures in the current perilous times, and also overspreading of apostasies, beyond manifestation of the son of perdition very soon( John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:1-4 and Revelation 13:11).
May our Lord GOD bless us,and give us His pretection
Amen
My understanding is Jesus was baptized and anointed in the fall of the year__, he was 40 days and nights in the wilderness. Jesus then chose His 12 disciples. shortly after the wedding where Jesus turned the water to wine, He went to Passover John 2:23, this would be 6 months after He was anointed by the Holy Ghost.
There are 3 more Passovers and Jesus was crucified on the last one, John 5:1, 1.5 years John 6:4 2.5 years, and John 13:1 the Passover He was crucified 3.5 years from when He was anointed as the Messiah.
My understanding of Matthew 24 was also for the disciples for the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem not just for us today, if we compare Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14 have when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet. But in Luke 21:20, He writes when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
The abomination of desolation is something done by someone as King Antiochus IV Epiphanes did in 168 BC. It happened before the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. My understanding is parts of Jesus's Olivet discourse were for them and parts are for us.
What is in Daniel 9:27 Jesus caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease when He died and the vail of the Temple rent from top to bottom. As Jesus told the woman at the well the hour has come ye shall not worship the Father in the mountain or Jerusalem, John 4:21
The wording in Daniel 9:27 is for the overspreading of abominations points to the abominations the leaders of Jerusalem will have done, Matthew 23:32-38 Jesus told them "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate" The he, is Jesus who will make it desolate and, in their generation, it was made desolate by the people/Roman army, of the prince/Titus same as God used Babylon in 586 BC.
I hope this makes sense so that you can study for your understanding even if you disagree, if you have questions let me know.
God bless,
RLW
The main happenings before the beginning of the last week- Daniel 9:27.What will happen from now on.The last week is not too far to start.Here are the happenings that will preceed the last week as was prophesied by Daniel:
- Death of the current Pope and election of the next and last Pope,ruler and guide of the religious MONSTER of 7 heads,and 10 horns,upon his HORNS ten crowns,and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy-Vicarius Filli Dei?
-The Beast of the earth with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel;(the clay- Isaiah 64:8-the dry land);
-Election of a new Pope-his pseudo-name or nickname may be Paulus VII??(Re.17:10);
-Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB will manifest himself as God in Israel;in fact a false messiah,an esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist false messiah;Then there will be two powerful and satanic Beasts in the Earth;
-The esoteric and kabblistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth will make great signs and wonders of lie,even makes fire come down to the earth before men;Rev.13:13-15
-The ELECTED LAST Pope(Paulus VII??)will meet the Beast like lamb;
-Both will develop an union between the Roman Catholic Church and Judaism,iron with clay- Daniel 2:41-43-but they shall not cleave one to another,even as iron is not mixed with clay;
-A religious and universal satanic Empire will be build by both religious leaders;Rev.11:1-2;
-The esoteric and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast of the earth-the false messiah of the Jews-AN IMPOSTOR,will make a deal with the Beast of sea-the Papacy-,the Beast of earth, the false messaiah, will give to the Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne,and great Authority.Then the Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both satanic Beasts;
All events or happenings listed above,some will happen before starting the last week- Daniel 9:27-,for example,death of Pope Francis,others during the week as soon it starts, and others in the middle of the week and until the end or until the consumation.
Get ready
PRE TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD-BEGINNING OF SORROWS
Matthew 24:1-2&15-25
Jesus went out from the Temple:His disciples showed Him the buildings of the Temple.JESUS said:See ye not all these things?verily I say unto you,There shall not be left here ONE stone upon another, what He prophesied fulfilled LITERALLY in 70AD,the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy.Temple was destroyed in 70AD,Israel was banned from their land,and were scattered around the world for 1878 years,from 70AD-1948AD,100K died under the army of Romans's attack.Israel suffered severe and great punishments for 1878 years in LITERAL fulfillment of Deuteronomy 28:15-68.Take a look.The WORD IS GOD,self-executing,understand?
Then JESUS went to the Mount of Olives,there the disciples privately asked two important things to Him,saying:
1 - What shall be the sign of thy coming?
2 - and of the END of the world?(the current Devil's world)
JESUS LISTED A TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD-BEGINNING OF SORROWS, AND SAID HOW WOULD BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE TIME
The testimomy of JESUS is the Spirit of PROPHECY.He listed several events linked to His Coming,and to the END of THIS current Devil's world.
Matthew 24:4-8-Jesus said:
v.4-Take heed that no man deceive you;(this the first concern of JESUS).It seems many have not kept the warning of JESUS and are being deceived by false and devilish theories spread in the world mainly by Internet.
v.5-For many shall come in my name,saying,I am Christ;and shall deceive many;
(Soon will manifest the Beast of the earth who has two horns like a lamb,actually a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR. John 5:43, 2Thessalonians 2:3-4, Revelation 13:11).
v.6-And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS;seefor ALL THESE THINGS must come to pass,but the END is not yet.
v.7-For NATION shall rise against NATION,and kingdom against kingdom:
there shall be famines;
pestilences;
earthquakes in divers places.
8All these are the beginning of SORROWS.(Pre-tribulational)
Messiah doesn't destroy. Here's what the prophecy says of Daniel's week 70th;
1-it is about the works of redemption through JESUS the Messiah;
2-to RESTORE and BUILD the Temple of Jerusalem, as was commanded by GOD to the King Cyrus(Esra 1:2-3 and 6:3),
3-This EVENT would last until the Messiah be cut off-(Crucified),as is written in Dan.9:24-25,as follow:
Verse 24-Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people(Israel)and upon thy holy city,
-to finish the transgression,
-and to make an end of sins,
-to make reconciliation for iniquity,
-to bring in everlasting righteousness,
-to seal up the VISION and PROPHECY,
and to anoint the most Holy.
V.25-Know therefore and understand,that
- from the going forth of the commandment TO RESTORE,
- and TO BUILD Jerusalem until the Messiah the Prince,
- shall be seven weeks(49 years),
- and threescore and two weeks(more 434 years):
- the street shall be BUILT AGAIN,and the wall, even in troublous times.
JESUS was born after week 69, i.e.after a period of 483 years.His birth was something around 7 to 3BC,as this is known).
- Beginning of Jesus' public Ministry was around 27 AD, at the age of thirty( Luke 3:23).
- After three years was cut off in LITERAL fulfilment of Dan.9:26-And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off(crucified),but not for Himself.
That said,the last week,week 70th,stayed I would say,at stand by,and it until this current time.
Actually,these last 7 years are within the last decade of the existence of this current world of Devil,and in this last 10 years period fulfills LITERALY Matthew 24:3-8-period of sorrows,and imediately after,the abomination of desolation- Matthew 24:15-28. GET READY
In the other hand,O please,brother, according to the Chronology of the New Testament,when Stephen was killed it had not been passed two years of the crucifixion,so much less than three years and half as you said erroneously. Stephen has nothing to do with the week 70th Daniel's prophecy.
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